Wednesday, July 4, 2012

My rant about The Amazing Spider-Man


*SPOILERS AND NERD RANTING AHEAD*

Saw this at midnight last night and I was pretty frustrated by it.   It had some gorgeous action and the casting was PERFECT, but the writing was so incredibly sloppy, and it was stuffed full of things that didn't make sense as well as wasted opportunities. I just felt...eh inside.  I'm going to nerd rant about it now:

Let me start with what I liked:

The cast. I loved the cast.  Andrew Garfield as Spider-man?  Perfect.  Sarcastic,  lanky/skinny,  he was nerdy when playing Peter Parker,witty when playing Spider-Man.  They could not have cast the role better.  Emma Stone as Gwen Stacy? Perfect again.  She was cute, charming, funny, made the audience want to date her etc.  Martin Sheen and Sally Fields?  They were sympathetic, sweet, caring, it was hard to not have my heart go out to them.  Rhys Ifans?  Nailed the role.  I thought he was motivated, sympathetic, and RESTRAINED in his performance as Dr. Connors.  All of their perfomances carried the hell out of this movie.  I think without this stellar cast, people would have walked out of the theater significantly more disappointed.

I liked that Uncle Ben didn’t actually SAY “with great power comes great responsibility.”  He discussed the concept with more believable dialogue and they let the audience say the line in our heads (which everyone totally did).  I thought that was brilliant.

I loved the car thief scene.  When this scene went on the internet, it completely sold me on the tone of the movie.  Spider-Man was sarcastic, funny, kind of a dick. It was great.

I loved how much time was spent building up Norman Osborn and Gwen Stacy.  We all know what eventually will happen between the two of them, so it’s good that they started setting up for it early.

The action was great! Not much I can say about that.

Here are the things that I think needed work:

One thing that consistently disappoints me in most interpretations of Spider-Man is how little time is spent letting us get to know Uncle Ben.  His death is the PRIMARY MOTIVATING FACTOR in Peter's decision to become Spider-Man, so why do we keep rushing through it?  I think AT LEAST more than half of the movie should have been spent with Uncle Ben alive, letting us get to know and care about him and REALLY establishing his relationship with Peter. We as an audience need to FEEL Peter's frustration and grief when Ben dies.  We need to be tearing up as Ben tells Peter his last words.  As everyone loves to point out, Up made us love and cry over the death of a character in ten f*cking minutes.  We need to actively root for Peter and be angry with him as he hunts down the gunman.   There was no need to rush it and this is Martin Sheen!  Jed fucking Bartlet!  He could have had the audience in tears NO PROBLEM with the right script.  MAKE US CARE.

Speaking of making us care, the scene where Peter is on the roof and the cranes start aligning themselves to help him get to Oscorp was another example of them getting SO CLOSE but ultimately not doing enough to get us REALLY invested, and consequently wasting another emotional opportunity.  This was a scene where Spider-Man should have been at his lowest point.  I mean Peter had just been shot, but he barely acknowledged the wound.  He should have been limping hard from the bullet, bloody, tired, barely able to stand.  We should have FELT his exhaustion.  He should have been on the phone with Gwen as she was freaking the hell out,  the Lizard stalking through the labs, Gwen desperate to remain undetected, until finally,  the Lizard bursts through the wall causing her to scream and her phone to cut off.
Suddenly Peter would be losing it.  He’s thinking that it's about to happen again!  He's about to lose ANOTHER person he loves, but this time he’s determined not to let it happen.  This is the REAL reason why he’s Spider-Man after all. To protect the city yes, but more importantly to protect the people he loves.

So he's battered, shot, bloody, limping, but all he can think about is getting to that fucking building and saving her. Right now, this is the only reason he exists.  He’s desperate.  Except he can't do it because there's no  path to Oscorp from where he’s standing.  He’s frustrated, panicked, angry.  He doesn’t know what to do.  He’s certain Gwen’s about to die and it’s all his fault because he can’t protect her.  And just when he’s about to collapse under the hopelessness of the situation, THAT is when all the cranes align in front of him and give him the opportunity to rush forth and save the girl he loves.  THAT would have had me at the edge of my seat.  It seemed like they were going for something similar but in my opinion, they just did NOT make the situation hopeless enough.

This scene would also serve to set a precedent for what we all know will eventually happen to Gwen.  This scene could have been mirrored in the next movie with Green Goblin, except this time there are no citizens of New York to help Spider-Man.  No happy ending. A logical build-up to that iconic scene on the bridge with Norman Osborne and Gwen Stacy.

  Without intensely raised stakes (at a pivotal moment which,  to me, defines what the Spiderman’s arc is about), there’s no tension and no reason for us to care!  At least not enough of it.

As a side note, I think the “lining-up-the-cranes” thing was awkward to begin with. While I liked the idea of Spider-Man  inspiring the people he saved to turn around and save HIM,  I think it was executed in a manner that felt too contrived and convenient.  It needed a little bit more to make us really buy it and not seem as corny and implausible.

In fact a lof of this movie felt incredibly corny and implausible.  For example:

Norman Osborn being this shadowy mystery figure.  Why?  He’s the head of a major corporation.  He should be calculating, charismatic, and most importantly he should be ambitious.   Him hiding in the shadows in the after-credits scene just came off as silly to me.  I couldn’t take that dude seriously.

EVERYTHING IN THE HIGHSCHOOL.  I thought every scene in the high school was retarded. Why?  Because that's NOT what bullying looks like,  that's NOT how teenagers interact with eachother, that’s NOT how a teenaged nerd would stand up to a bully.  It felt like someone went out and watched every other super her movie, and then wrote Spider-Man.  It's just rehashed rehashings of every high-school-superhero-kid-standing-up-to-the-bully scene you've ever watched.

Also, when a dude named Spiderman appears on t.v at the same time a kid at school throws a football so hard that he dents a field goal post, and quadruple backflip dunks a basketball so hard that he tears off the rim…people are gonna put shit together.

Speaking of idiots in this movie not putting shit together,  Peter LEAPT and STUCK to the ceiling in a subway car full of people after he beat the shit out of like 9 dudes in the most absurd example of a New York fight I’ve ever seen.  I can’t go in depth with a critique of that scene because the entirety of it was stupid.
In fact, all the I-just-got-powers scenes were lazy as shit.  That’s probably where I saw the most wasted opportunity, they just copied and pasted from what had already been done.

In general the script was just incredibly corny and cheesy.  I think Sam Raimi could have made gold with it, and he would have done so by EMBRACING the corniness. THIS movie seemed like it wanted to have a more believable tone, but the script still seemed like it was intended to be silly and tongue-in-cheek.  The tone of the movie conflicted with the script and the result was a mess.  A script should have been written that was way more believable to suit the tone of the film.
Now I know it seems like I hated this movie, but I didn’t, I just thought it was very mediocre.  For some reason, that sets me off more than if it had been outright terrible.  This movie had a stellar cast, and they could have done something really incredible if they invested a lot more into a better script.  This could have been a knockout but instead the potential was wasted and the movie was forgettable.  I hope they continue the franchise with better writing.

I would kill to see Joss Whedon write lines for Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Man, especially for Avengers 2.  I feel like Garfield’s Spider-Man is EXACTLY the kind of character Whedon could do wonders with.  I can’t imagine how entertaining the banter would be between him and Iron Man.

*EDIT* I was asked by someone why we need to bother about Uncle Ben's death since as an audience, we already know it's coming.  This was my response:



Because it's not about whether or not they know it's going to happen. It's about getting us to care about it happening. I should have given a fuck when Ben died. I should have been emotional. I wasn't. It's not always about surprising the audience, it's more important to get the audience to feel something.





The reason it was ok for Batman Begins to race through Bruce's parents' death was because there was a much grander story that they needed to get to. In Spiderman's case, Peter's relationships WERE the meat of the story.





All the Uncle Ben stuff could have occurred side by side with what was going in the rest of the movie as Peter decides that he HAS to become Spiderman to protect his loved ones and to make sure a repeat of Uncle Ben's death NEVER happens again (which makes the scene where he has to save Gwen that much more dramatic, because he's terrified that it WILL happen again.) This would also give his promise to Gwen's father MUCH more weight because he would willingly stay away from Gwen (again, because he will NOT let someone he loves get killed again.)





The only plot stuff happening in Spiderman outside of Peter's relationships was all the bullshit with the Lizard which I ultimately didn't care about. Building up to Ben's death and making it dramatic and impactful would have been way more rewarding.





Also, this would all set up the themes for the sequel. Peter would be unhealthily obsessed with protecting his loved ones. His relationship with Gwen will have crumbled because of his decision to stay away from her to protect her. He'd be wrestling with the desire to be with her but staying away from her at the same time. While that was happening, we'd also be building to that inevitable scene where she gets tossed off the roof, and building to the realization that Peter has been PRETENDING to care about protecting the whole city, but really he's been prioritizing his loved ones' protection. Gwen's death would shake him out of that and he'd grow to care about making sure that NOBODY'S loved ones would ever die at the hands of a criminal again.


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                                                                                          /NERD RANT

Also, if you haven't already, watch the BBC show Luther starring Idris Elba.  It's incredible.  And also watch the Newsroom, the first episode was fanastic!

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

I loved the movie. It was not as good as the first two Sam Rami Spider-man movies, but it was a very good movie.

And Joss Wheadon...NO! He's such a hack. Putting "y" on the end of words and cramming a movie with a bunch of sight gags is fun for a bit, but it's like the movie equivalent of junk food.

Danny Araya said...

Joss Whedon's a lot of things but he's not a hack. A person can complain that his characters sound too similar and that would be a valid criticism, but he knows how to structure a story and he knows how to write entertaining lines and he knows how to make his audience fall fiercely in love with his characters.

Totally valid opinion to not like his work, but the man's definitely not a hack.

Nick said...

I don’t want to go on as long as your blog, I mean this is just a comment, so I’ll try and be succinct.

I recently saw the new Spidey and I’m with you on the general assessments. I thought the cast was excellent and if the script (at least as directed) were better it could have been really good.

Although I live in the Nashville area now I grew up in NYC and the crane thing was painfully cheesy and unrealistic. Secondly, there are no lizards of any significant proportion living in NYC, so what was with the lizard infestation? Lameness.

The Captain Stacy death/promise was predictable and lame.

The reinterpretation and hunting down of Uncle Ben’s killer was less effective emotionally than the Sam Raimi version. I don’t demand slavish mimicking of the comic, just the spirit of the comic and effective storytelling. It failed on storytelling primarily.

Half the population of NYC apparently knows Peter Parker was Spiderman, but Aunt May didn’t (except perhaps by deduction by the end of the movie). What’s up with that? What secret identity? He may as well go Fantastic Four on us if there’s a sequel.

Maybe I’m getting old but it seems a bit early to reboot since the Tobey Maguire/Sam Raimi version. Do they not have any ideas? Are there not 100s of superheroes to choose from?

A few ideas, I’d use all unknown actors.

Daredevil – This could use a reboot. Daredevil is close to a Batman ripoff, so I’d go totally sideways of the Dark Knight movies. Instead of gritty, wire kung fu. Yuen Wu Ping choreography. Something in the Iron Monkey zone, but set in NYC. Not an origin movie, but brief flashbacks to radioactive exposure and training by Stick. You cannot set it in Hell’s Kitchen, it is now one of the richest areas of NYC and is about as gritty and grimy as Disneyland. I think I’d go with a plot of something like Kingpin allying w/The Hand, but both are secretly trying to take over each other’s business at the same time. Really focus on how his Daredevil work supplements his lawyering. Perhaps he’s defending someone framed by Kingpin’s people and it gradually links to the Hand, etc.

Power Man and Iron Fist – I know they’re small potatoes, but they could be great. I’d lean more towards action-comedy a little with them being opposite personalities. I could see a common sense Power Man reeling in a monastery-sheltered Iron Fist, fascinated by the modern world.

Black Panther – It’d probably be best as a James Bondish international thriller with some kind of plot trying to take advantage of Wakanda. Black Panther has to go to America and/or parts of Europe to ferret out the truth. International figure by day and Black Panther by night.

Dr. Strange – I’d move him more like the Matt Fraction Defenders. A little more American ladykiller Johns Constantine. Gotta go with Dormammu as the villain.

Longshot – Stick close to origin story w/Mojo and Spiral and can really satirize reality show glut we’ve got these days. Gotta lose Longshot’s mullet though.

Joss Whedon is the man, not perfect, but I really like his style. I couldn’t agree less with Hack appellation, but we all have opinions. It’s all good.

I guess I ran long anyway. Got caught up by my pitches.

Nick.

PS – Dig your art.

Anonymous said...

Tobey looks 10.000 more like a nerd and acts like one then the Andrew straight outa twilight.


Though I like the smart sarcasm he throws out which is a nice parallel to what his split personality as a nerd just comes flying out....but hes not looking like a nerd, at all, its like having William Dafoe playing Wesley snipes for a new blade movie it just dosnt do it.


I think this movie came and gave the impression of a pro-popularity hierarchy mainstream whoring reboot that took a shit on its classic fans.